"I think it's just crazy how a guy from this town in the north of England can really grow in other countries, that he can bring his own festival abroad - I think it's amazing to see," she tells Newsbeat.
杜耀豪曾与有相似家族离散经验的朋友讨论：“那些来自过去的深刻创伤……仍会在幸存者的生活中持续回荡、影响并造成心理损伤。”他相信，“交流想法或创建一个与过去进行历史对话的平台，具有疗愈作用，更重要的是它能带来和解”。
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The fun and well-photographed interview in Softalk in 1983 starts like this:
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